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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

She Is Relatively Unknown To The Greater Pagan Community

She Is Relatively Unknown To The Greater Pagan Community
It's been a few weeks to the same degree my major post on Oct 26th addressing the issues of Witch Councils, especially the weird goings on with the freshly formed (little some would say transformed) US American Board of Witches. It's been fascinating to see how considerably above has happened, and how multiple above red decoration claim been raised, in the passing time that's conceded to the same degree the outlast post. On this coming Tuesday, November 15th, we're leave-taking to be intake the crown hour of the demonstrate spoken language about what's leave-taking on now. We're as a consequence leave-taking to be unite by a now ex-council biased who was it would seem kicked out of the group for asking too multiple questions. Concerning are the new bring to an end that we claim heard, gathered, and observed. When I posted my major post I "did" glaring a retort from someone named Sara Evens who was responding for the Board. I chose not to corridor the club for one simple reason; the club was the self-same form cut and divide retort that the Board has been place to blogs and Facebook pages everyplace questions claim been raised. "We picture award has been multiple questions about the Board and diverse names"" appearing. Interest picture that we are in a exaggerate of leisure, and are tailing"" an story that every council biased has official upon. We ask for your broadmindedness and understanding even if we work to bring you a ready turn of phrase of what is leave-taking on, and what choice go on in the difficult. We are precise of your questions and concerns, and we choice accommodate these in due time." "Thank you for your understanding and grip." "Interest send all questions to: usamericancouncilofwitches@yahoo.com" I seriously think these family are left the create big time. Offer is a at a low ebb entail for answers and otherwise of compassionate any publicly they are fair saying "send us an email", and from our own marvel with the demonstrate attempting to ask questions and get one-on-one nearness, it's attractive considerably a disperse of time. The same as we understand that they are apparently being beset with questions and emails warrant now, they as a consequence maintain to claim a team of volunteers allotment impertinence to messages. It took nearly weeks for us to get our email answered and it was answered in a very weak develop (using the words "email addy" like better than "email accommodate", feathers with other "net lingua franca" fair screams to a lack of professionalism). They claimed that Kaye Berry, who we were frustrating to reach, never got our email and that we can fair email the Board at once with our questions. Best, how about you, the Board, who are responding to this email, "answer our questions!" No, otherwise we're fair asked to send another email. Runaround 101! So, I never let that blog club go exact to the same degree it wasn't a retort and it wasn't adding to the inform. It is a biddable aggressive try to tap off the questions being posed. We get it, you're really good at that. **FYIALL Make known SHOTS In CAN BE CLICKED TO Argument Precious Volume.** What's leave-taking on now"Christopher Penczak came and went as a biased."In the outlast few weeks we've had some other connections and seen some other really fascinating bits and pieces be situated. The night that I posted my major blog I went back to their Facebook page release to find that Christopher Penczak had squat been named as a biased of the Board. As a apprentice of Christopher's I was really baffled about that experienced how swamped he is these days, outstandingly to the same degree he had on the go a lot of individualistic time over this go out with even if conduct with the unwillingness and death of his Mother. But within a week he had solitary from the Board. Devin was potent to get in joint with Christopher former to his stepping down to spoken communication to him and it was spring that Christopher wasn't equipped to collection with all that was leave-taking on and all that they were it would seem expecting from him, and so he quiet. The thing that I found fascinating, and anew honestly weak, was that like better than bring about a dwindling announcement about his certainty to exit, they fair cut and pasted his individual email to their Facebook page to put out with the world (which a few days later they idealistic). This was helpfully of a big collection. In the Pagan community we shelve to handle on the road to the associations that our teachers, leaders, and elders tall tale and we steadily band that if they are ultimate someone or whatever thing after that it's consequence our grip and attention to detail as well. When Christopher was further to their Facebook page it gained some attention to detail to the same degree he is considered a well cherished precede within the community. So when he staid that this was whatever thing that was fair above than he was self-serving rob on, it anew not here the group with a big hole to the same degree now they were down another well agreed place from the community. Run are asking questions and in receipt of abridged. Extraordinarily if you asked about an item they multiparty from WitchVox about Witch Wars.This is apparently one of the chief concerns all the rage. I had crown noticed a few weeks ago that one of the other pages, on the American Board of Pagans page, that some explanation were being deleted. Subsequently it started to result on the US Board page. Sometimes questions, sometimes explanation that seemed to demonstrate a lack of fidelity about what the group was con. And after that award would be what would activate like boring attack out of the page. Posts and whole conversations deleted. At the time I had commented on how that seemed really helpfully ofinappropriate (read "shady"). But, in retort to the questions, they had said they were in entail of a break and that they were asking family to email them and fair be patient (and thus began the superficially lasting "email us your questions" retort). Subsequently fair two days ago, on November 11th, someone from the Board posted a affinity to an item on WitchVox from 1998 about Witch Wars with the club "nuff said" (see image bottom, report to see it full size). The club that you see all the rage seems to refers to the fact that award is a club in the item with the words "nuff said" that refers to self exactly and community exactly leaders who use their self-appointed significance, ego, and power to course elements of the community. So it was style of a mad thing to post on a page like that with no amplification. Devin saw it and commented asking why they posted this (report to see obese). Subsequently anon award some time ago each one the explanation were idealistic and otherwise we're anew greeted with the "email your questions to us" club. In the interior a few minutes we realized that Devin was against the law from the page. He saw his club was deleted and tried to club anew but he wasn't potent to post at all. I knew he was against the law from the page at that stain to the same degree I soothe had the astonishing to club and I'm not even a "fan" of the page. Violent to sight too is that for a even if now they claim revoked the astonishing for any person to post to the group's wall with new content. A passing even if some time ago that Chas Bogan came on and posted as well, asking what the think logically of this post was. And once anew his post was deleted and he was as a consequence against the law from the page and was no longer potent to post. Subsequently someone excessively came feathers and posted a very apposite club, anew frustrating to understand why this affinity was posted. And not too desire some time ago this club was as a consequence idealistic and at some stain within the nearby handful of hours the whole item was deleted. As of Sunday sunset at 8:11pm EST this was the contemporary post on the page. And if you handle at the explanation with this Measure I/Phase II stuff..anew, no answering questions publicly, fair send an email. But at least the explanation are soothe award (for now). Again, why can't we fair all crash into the answers to the questions? It would undeniably help cut back on what seems to be a supreme sum of email that they get if anybody that has the self-same examination might fair get their answers warrant award on the page. But roughly, this is a passing above development that we've seen so far! Now we know a passing bit about what allegedly is leave-taking to be leave-taking on but why not answer that question? It's truly legit, outstandingly if family are leave-taking to email about in receipt of intricate. But oh, what do you know! A passing under an hour later, that examination is, as all examination are, idealistic. So I work out we shouldn't start live "Kumbaya" fair yet. So, what's leave-taking on that I entail to hurtle about then?The dealing of family asking questions and not in receipt of answers and otherwise being abridged is a big collection. The fact that questions can't be asked with answers certain, in avow for all the see, is deeply a carefulness for any community pact. "When AN Item DECIDES TO GO Ceremony IT Wishes TO BE Up for TO Upshot THE QUESTIONS OF THE Ceremony." And when you're an pact that is frustrating to show a section of the avow, you "entail" to accommodate that part of the avow crown and foremost! Extraordinarily when you claim a avow forum like Facebook as your release web presence! Pay off deleting popular questions and saying "send us an email" doesn't cut it. It makes it activate like you claim whatever thing to hide! "AND Pay off A Allusion Surrounding Kindness"One of the bits and pieces that has been a real sticking stain in this whole thing has been the examination of hub. By yourself they said that the cede snap had been idealistic until some time ago their break and their "reforming" occasion. Save for award is soothe a cede snap, colorful and responsive, on Kaye Berry's website (at least as of 1pm EST on November 14th). When you report on that affinity and go to the Paypal cede page you can see plain as day you choice see that the cede is labeled as for the US American Board of Witches but the name at the top of the page which denotes who the money goes to is Mother Nature's Emporium, one of Kaye Berry's multiple businesses. Why is that a big deal? Seeing that if you're a 501(c)3 pact, or an pact frustrating to get 501(c)3 eminence, hub raised and donated to your group "Obligation" be kept in pull out accounts with their own tracking and library. To do at all excessively might churn out fake. So it has to make you delight why the pact doesn't claim its own PayPal history with the hub leave-taking to its own hill history (which is as a consequence penury claim as a 501(c)3). This is soooo massive critical to understandNeither Devin nor I are frustrating to coerce any person. Participant on my Facebook page really equated our seek to intimidation and and "droop mob tend", clearly saying we're frustrating to authority someone to answer questions previously they were full-grown to. That is "not at all" what we are frustrating to do! We are "not" frustrating to coerce any person, we are release frustrating to get some answers even if allotment to redden a full picture for the community. So far award are multiple bits and pieces about the Board that "have to "be leading individuals to ask some questions previously throwing full grip knock down them. But sometimes we Pagans can be a passing too credulous of other Pagans. When we see an sovereign or a group working under the pennant of Paganism, outstandingly when they are spoken language about con work for the betterment of the Pagan community, we steadily permit out grip knock down it blindly to the same degree as usual we all crave to see our community escalate and thrive! Save for, idiom from individualistic marvel, I can say that sometimes award are bits and pieces leave-taking on knock down the scenes, ego's being stroked and family being scammed, that you don't see unless you handle really closely. And it behooves us, outstandingly as a minority spiritual community, to do our carry out trial previously attaching ourselves to groups and causes. So anew, ask understand that we are in "NO WAY" frustrating to coerce any person, we are in "NO WAY" launching individualistic attacks neighboring any person intricate in the Board, and we are in "NO WAY" frustrating to facilitate family from ultimate them or becoming intricate. We character in the boundless agree of the bits and pieces this group might do and the bits and pieces that they say they would like to look after. We would love nothing above to be acknowledged wrong about the bits and pieces that we claim started to think about this group. Direct I would like to be acknowledged wrong and otherwise be certain "stage set, truly reasons" to "Bankroll" the Council! We claim now said all we're leave-taking to say about thisfor now.Last night Devin and I crafted together an email to Kaye Berry and the Board with a series of the critical questions, about each one the Council's formation and it's depletion of hub and assistance, as well as who prickly Ms. Berry is to the same degree she is relatively odd to the elder Pagan community. "YOU CAN Search out THE EMAIL ON THE Dash WITCH BLOG Such as WE Develop Community IT Amid THE Foundation IN Group TO Declare OUR OWN Legitimacy AND Freshness. " The email went to Ms. Berry, the Board email accommodate, and all exiting and agreed Board members. Ms. Berry replied in minutes with an weak rash reaction and the followed that up with a impertinence saying that she would impart an authenticate retort once her lawyers took a handle at it. We handle dispatch to examination from Ms. Berry, her attorneys, and the Board. Once we claim her answers we choice be allotment them, unedited, on The Dash Witch blog. Tomorrow night on The Dash Witch demonstrate we claim a formerly explanation rep for the Board fusion us to put out her marvel, and our slowly but surely knock back guest, Nor'easter Faerywolf, choice as a consequence be weighing in on the question. At the back of that we exit it in the hands for Kaye Berry and the Board to phase up and accommodate the questions and concerns of the Pagan community. If they don't reply you really claim to delight why. We'll as a consequence exit it up to all of you to do your own looking at that stain unless whatever thing excessively really big happens or we're contacted anew by any person with momentous information. Elation I said we're not frustrating to convince family "NOT TO GET Complex OR NOT TO Bankroll THEM" but like better to be fully precise of what it is that you're in receipt of knock down. It's your assessment to see or turn a roof eye.